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Metzler 880 Tread Failure
this is the second tire that i have had go bad prematurely,both with just about as much tire wear,both less than two years old at time of failure
first one i thought that it was because of high road heat and low tire pressure,1st one was way worse than this one,2nd tire was always checked prior to days ride and never more than 40 psi,date code on tire "3909"so definitely shouldn't be age related
replaced with an E3
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1987 Aspencade 129K
1986 SEI 93K
2014 Tri-Glide HD 17K

Hancock,MD
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#1 06-14-2013, 03:02 PM,
(06-14-2013, 03:02 PM)neoracer Wrote: this is the second tire that i have had go bad prematurely,both with just about as much tire wear,both less than two years old at time of failure
first one i thought that it was because of high road heat and low tire pressure,1st one was way worse than this one,2nd tire was always checked prior to days ride and never more than 40 psi,date code on tire "3909"so definitely shouldn't be age related
replaced with an E3
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I think I'd be calling Metzler .... how many miles on it?
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#2 06-14-2013, 05:29 PM,
Where is that on the tire? 40 psi is not near enough pressure for these heavy bikes. I had cupping on my first one way before I thought it should have after doing a good bit of research I found that the service centers recommended 46 to 48psi. I'd sure be taking that tire into a service center too and having it checked. That sucks
1986 SEi Limited Edition. 1985 Aspencade
If it's not broke, I can fix that!
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#3 06-14-2013, 06:23 PM,
I'm on my fourth season with E3's and kept them at 40psi. Wearing nicely.
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#4 06-15-2013, 01:31 AM,
best i can figure this Metzler had about 9K on it and the first had about 6 when problems developed

the E3's i put on the Aspy have been doing fine now for about 15K
1987 Aspencade 129K
1986 SEI 93K
2014 Tri-Glide HD 17K

Hancock,MD
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#5 06-15-2013, 03:51 AM,
I looked on the Metzler site for recommended pressures but all I can see is that they recommend what the motorcycle handbook says. That sort of makes it difficult if the maker doesn't install that make of tire.
The only stupid questions are the one's that are not asked.

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#6 06-15-2013, 06:46 AM,
I had it book marked on my pc but it went down and I had to move to my laptop and lost the site. Why they have never up graded the pressures on the tires themselves I have no idea. Of course I have never really paid that much attention to what is on the side of the tire anyway other than what they recommend as guide lines. I know as you increase the weight on a tire that you have to increase the pressures regardless of what the tire says. Low pressure to weight is the biggest killer of a tire due to the heat build up. I pay pretty close attention to my tires, checking the wear patterns. Too much wear off center or cupping and the pressure is too low, too much wear in the center and the pressure is too high. Regardless I would still be raising hell with Metzler till they told me something and gave a good explanation as to the cause. Those are not cheap tires
1986 SEi Limited Edition. 1985 Aspencade
If it's not broke, I can fix that!
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#7 06-15-2013, 06:59 AM,
Tiers seem to be such a hit and miss, I read so many great reviews on these Metzlers and here is two in a row that failed miserably, Last month we were talking about Vic's E3's that did not perform and yet Neo says they are doing well for him now.. Shinko is another one - hot and cold reviews - I'm on a new set of Pirelli's they have 1.5k (kms) on them and I have not seen tires grip and handle like this but who knows how they will fare a month from now ..
I vote we go back to stone wheels with wooden axles like Fred and Wilma ride on
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#8 06-15-2013, 07:19 AM,
I think this is the link Tricky

http://motorcyclemetal.com/downloads/200...L_LINE.pdf
1986 SEi Limited Edition. 1985 Aspencade
If it's not broke, I can fix that!
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#9 06-15-2013, 07:56 AM,
On the Wing I inflate to 2 psi over the book number front and 3 to 4 psi over the book number on the rear. I rode 2 M880 rears and a front - both the rears showed a bit of choppy wear on the sides towards the end but nothing like neoracer's picture. The only complaint I had with the M880s was the noise when leaned over in a nice fast sweeper.


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#10 06-15-2013, 02:45 PM,
although its only the first tank and not a full one can already see that there is a fuel mileage increase,which would appear that its probably about 3-4 mpg,but that's not on a high speed run at 65-75mph

also noticed that since i used an 85 wheel with a "new" flange that mc is smoother when on and off the throttle on hills etc,dont feel that slack feeling when rolling on the throttle
1987 Aspencade 129K
1986 SEI 93K
2014 Tri-Glide HD 17K

Hancock,MD
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#11 06-16-2013, 12:41 AM,


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